Legislature(2009 - 2010)KOTZEBUE

02/07/2009 01:00 PM House ENERGY


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01:04:40 PM Start
01:05:40 PM Overview(s): Aea Statewide Energy Report
03:23:32 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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Borough Assembly Chambers, 163 Lagoon St.
AEA Statewide Energy Report
-- Public Testimony --
               ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                       
           HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                                  
                   February 7, 2009                                                                                             
                       1:04 p.m.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Charisse Millett, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Kyle Johansen                                                                                                    
Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                       
Representative Pete Petersen                                                                                                    
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                            
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW(S):  AEA STATEWIDE ENERGY REPORT                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to report.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SIIKAURAQ MARTHA WHITING, Mayor                                                                                                 
Northwest Arctic Borough (NWABOR)                                                                                               
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
WALTER SAMPSON, Assembly President                                                                                              
Northwest Arctic Borough; Vice President                                                                                        
Lands and Natural Resources                                                                                                     
NANA Regional Corporation                                                                                                       
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ANDY BAKER, Co-Chair                                                                                                            
Kotzebue Community Emergency Task Force                                                                                         
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG MCCONNELL, Member                                                                                                         
Kotzebue Community Emergency Task Force; Maintenance                                                                            
Director                                                                                                                        
Northwest Arctic Borough School District                                                                                        
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEAN WESTLAKE, Village Economic Development Director                                                                            
NANA Regional Corporation                                                                                                       
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during public                                                                         
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ROGER CLARK, City Administrator                                                                                                 
City of Selawik                                                                                                                 
Selawik, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CLYDE RAMOTH, Delegate                                                                                                          
Village of Selawik                                                                                                              
Selawik, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HANNAH LOON                                                                                                                     
Selawik, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HENDY BALLOT, Tribal Administrator                                                                                              
Noorvik Native Community                                                                                                        
Noorvik, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GUY ADAMS, Executive Director                                                                                                   
Northwest Inupiat Housing Authority (NIHA)                                                                                      
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and answered questions                                                                         
during the hearing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK GREENE, Vice President                                                                                                    
NANA Development Corporation                                                                                                    
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TOM OKLEASIK, Planning Director                                                                                                 
Northwest Arctic Borough (NWABOR)                                                                                               
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LINDA JOULE, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Native Village of Kotzebue                                                                                                      
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
EUGENE SMITH, Chief Investment Officer                                                                                          
Maniilaq Association; Mayor                                                                                                     
City of Kotzebue                                                                                                                
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on behalf of the                                                                               
Maniilaq Association Health Center.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MARLENE MOTO                                                                                                                    
Deering, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JADE HILL, Assistant to the Mayor                                                                                               
Northwest Arctic Borough                                                                                                        
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEAN WESTLAKE, Village Economic Development Director                                                                            
NANA Regional Corporation                                                                                                       
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN YANITY, Project Engineer                                                                                                  
NANA Pacific Corporation                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
D'ANNE HAMILTON, Economic Development Director                                                                                  
Northwest Arctic Borough                                                                                                        
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CALEB PUNGOWIYI                                                                                                                 
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN SCHAEFFER, Airport Manager                                                                                               
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
(DOT&PF)                                                                                                                        
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on behalf of the                                                                               
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                                
(DOT&PF).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ANNMARIE O'BRIEN, Assistant Superintendent                                                                                      
Northwest Arctic Borough School District                                                                                        
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on behalf of                                                                          
the Northwest Arctic Borough School District.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:04:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT  called the House  Special Committee  on                                                                     
Energy  meeting to order  at 1:04  p.m.   Present at  the                                                                       
call  to order  were  Representatives  Ramras,  Johansen,                                                                       
Petersen,   Tuck,  Edgmon,   and   Millett.     Also   in                                                                       
attendance were Representative Joule and Senator Olson.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(S):  AEA Statewide Energy Report                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:05:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MILLETT  announced  that  the   only  order  of                                                                       
business would be  public testimony on the Alaska  Energy                                                                       
Authority (AEA) Statewide Energy Report.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:06:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  made opening remarks regarding  the                                                                       
intent  of the  community to  communicate,  not only  the                                                                       
challenges,  but also to  share with  the committee  some                                                                       
of  the work  that has  been  done regarding  the  energy                                                                       
needs in  the area.   He welcomed  the witnesses and  the                                                                       
listening  gallery  and  thanked  everyone   involved  in                                                                       
arranging the array of activities for the committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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1:08:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MILLETT   informed  the   committee  that   the                                                                       
purpose of  the meeting  was to listen  to the  witnesses                                                                       
and learn  about  the concerns  of the  residents in  the                                                                       
Kotzebue region.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Audio was lost due to technical difficulties.]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EDGMON   introduced   himself   as   the                                                                       
representative  representing  Southwest  Alaska,  Bristol                                                                       
Bay, and  the Aleutians,  and said that  he was born  and                                                                       
raised  in Dillingham.    He expressed  his  pleasure  at                                                                       
being  in  Kotzebue  and  welcomed  everyone's  testimony                                                                       
regarding  energy issues  and  the effectiveness  of  the                                                                       
state's   current  programs.      Representative   Edgmon                                                                       
pledged  to  carry   the  witnesses'  messages  back   to                                                                       
Juneau.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  introduced  himself  and   expressed  his                                                                       
anticipation of  the challenges  and the ideas  presented                                                                       
by the local residents.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PETERSEN  introduced   himself  as   the                                                                       
representative from  the Muldoon area  of Anchorage.   He                                                                       
said that  he has lived in Alaska  for 28 years and  this                                                                       
was his first trip  to Western Alaska.  He expressed  his                                                                       
hope  that residents  and  the  committee can  create  an                                                                       
energy plan that  will make a difference in this  part of                                                                       
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TUCK    introduced   himself   as    the                                                                       
representative  from  Southcentral  Anchorage  and  noted                                                                       
that he was  proud to return to  Kotzebue.  He said  that                                                                       
he  understood  the  impact high  energy  costs  have  on                                                                       
families, communities, businesses, and schools.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOHANSEN   introduced   himself   as   a                                                                       
representative  from  Southeast Alaska,  and  stated  his                                                                       
interest  in   listening  to   [the  residents  of]   the                                                                       
wonderful community of Kotzebue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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1:13:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAMRAS    introduced   himself   as    a                                                                       
representative  from Fairbanks,  and related  his  search                                                                       
for parody  in the  energy fields across  Alaska and  how                                                                       
to address  the issue of fairness.   He said that  energy                                                                       
is  at the  core  of  fairness,  and cited  the  cost  of                                                                       
diesel   fuel   in  different   areas   of   the   state.                                                                       
Representative   Ramras  opined   the   purpose  of   the                                                                       
committee  was to  learn empathy  for the  challenges  of                                                                       
other parts of the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT  introduced herself as a representative                                                                        
from South  Anchorage, and said  that she was honored  to                                                                       
be in Kotzebue.   She announced  one of the goals of  the                                                                       
committee  was  to  take  information  learned  from  the                                                                       
different regions  back to the legislature and start  the                                                                       
framework  for a statewide  energy plan.   The  statewide                                                                       
energy  plan will  be  divided  into regional  plans  and                                                                       
each   region  must   have  a   voice.     Finally,   the                                                                       
legislature  must  develop policy  on  how to  lower  and                                                                       
stabilize  energy  costs  statewide.    Co-Chair  Millett                                                                       
stressed that  without rural Alaska,  the state would  be                                                                       
without  natural  resources.   She  then  invited  public                                                                       
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SIIKAURAQ   MARTHA  WHITING,   Mayor,  Northwest   Arctic                                                                       
Borough  (NWABOR), welcomed  the legislators  and  stated                                                                       
the importance  of  their visit  to the  community.   She                                                                       
informed the  committee that residents  in the  Northwest                                                                       
Arctic region  are known to come  together during a  time                                                                       
of crisis.   This strength provides  a resiliency to  the                                                                       
community   and  creates   the  reputation   of   working                                                                       
together.   Although  the community  is self-sufficient,                                                                        
at  this  time it  must  ask  for help.    Mayor  Whiting                                                                       
affirmed  resources  do  come  from  rural   Alaska,  but                                                                       
despite this  her community pays  the highest prices  for                                                                       
food and  fuel; in fact, the  grocery stores in  Kotzebue                                                                       
charge from  $12 to $18  per gallon  of milk, and  prices                                                                       
are  higher  in  the  surrounding  villages.     Families                                                                       
suffer in other  ways too; toys are not purchased,  trips                                                                       
to  camp   have  been   cancelled,   hunting  trips   are                                                                       
carefully  planned, and  other measures  have been  taken                                                                       
in the community  to conserve.   She stated the need  for                                                                       
additional revenue-sharing  to bring equity to  Kotzebue,                                                                       
especially in education  funding.  Also, the state  needs                                                                       
to  subsidize  gas   prices  so  that  rural  and   urban                                                                       
residents pay the same for gas.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR WHITING  relayed that  many people  moved from  the                                                                       
region after  receiving the energy  rebate and  Permanent                                                                       
Fund  Dividend  (PFD)  last  year;  she  cautioned   that                                                                       
residents  can  not   afford  to  live  in  rural   areas                                                                       
anymore.   In fact, those  who resisted the  construction                                                                       
of roads and railroads  five years ago now support  them,                                                                       
hoping  for  lower transportation  costs  for  goods  and                                                                       
services.   Mayor Whiting  said the  borough is  creating                                                                       
an energy authority  that will develop a regional  energy                                                                       
plan and she is  optimistic that this crisis will  be met                                                                       
and the  area will  continue to  flourish.   "We need  to                                                                       
make sure  that, as decisions are  made on our behalf  in                                                                       
Juneau, that  we are  part of  that policy-making  body,"                                                                       
she said.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:26:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WALTER  SAMPSON,  Assembly  President,  Northwest  Arctic                                                                       
Borough;  Vice President,  Lands and  Natural  Resources,                                                                       
NANA  Regional  Corporation, thanked  the  committee  for                                                                       
visiting the community  in order to listen to the  views,                                                                       
needs, and  concerns of  the residents.   He pointed  out                                                                       
that the seal of  the State of Alaska is a reminder  that                                                                       
at  the encouragement  of  the  state,  city  governments                                                                       
were  created  in  this  region  with  the   caveat  that                                                                       
services would  be provided  by the state.   Forty  years                                                                       
hence,  many  of  the  villages  are  not  receiving  the                                                                       
benefit of  that promise.   Mr. Sampson  stated that  out                                                                       
of  the eleven  villages  in  the region,  there  is  one                                                                       
Village Public Safety  Officer (VPSO); thus services  are                                                                       
not  being provided.    Moreover,  when an  Alaska  State                                                                       
Trooper (AST)  is called  it may take  two to three  days                                                                       
for a  response, compared  with the  ten minute  response                                                                       
in Anchorage  or Fairbanks.   He  reminded the  committee                                                                       
that his  region is part  of the state  and there  should                                                                       
not be  such a  disparity of  services, considering  that                                                                       
the NWABOR was  established by the state specifically  to                                                                       
support  education and  to create  opportunities for  its                                                                       
residents.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:30:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMPSON further  explained that, since its  creation,                                                                       
the  NWABOR has  been working  hard and  has  constructed                                                                       
new  schools  in  seven  communities.     He  opined  the                                                                       
borough  has done  its  share, and  has "maxed  out"  its                                                                       
bonding  capacity, although  four  more new  schools  are                                                                       
needed.   The Red Dog  Mine is the only  tax base in  the                                                                       
area at this  time.  Mr. Sampson  turned to the topic  of                                                                       
transportation  and said  that transportation  costs  are                                                                       
the  cause for  $14  per  gallon gas  in  some  villages.                                                                       
Currently,  barges have limited  access to  parts of  the                                                                       
region and  many villages  are dependent  on air  freight                                                                       
only.  If the  state can spend millions on projects  such                                                                       
as the Four  Dam Pool, there is  no reason for the  State                                                                       
of  Alaska  to   ignore  the  rest  of  the   communities                                                                       
throughout  this region.   For  example,  as a  potential                                                                       
source  of income,  the  NWABOR  has been  attempting  to                                                                       
purchase  the  Delong  Mountain  Regional Transportation                                                                        
System (DMTS),  that is the deep  port facility owned  by                                                                       
the  Alaska Industrial  Development  &  Export  Authority                                                                       
(AIDEA),  Department of  Commerce, Community  &  Economic                                                                       
Development  (DCCED), at the  Red Dog Mine.   The  intent                                                                       
of AIDEA was to  create employment opportunities  for the                                                                       
region  during  the construction  of  the  facility,  and                                                                       
then to  transfer that  facility over to  a local  entity                                                                       
for operation.   Currently,  100 percent  of the  profits                                                                       
from  the  operation  of the  DMTS  continues  to  go  to                                                                       
AIDEA.   He encouraged  the governor to  direct AIDEA  to                                                                       
begin  the transfer  of  this  source of  income  to  the                                                                       
NWABOR for the benefit of the region.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY BAKER, Co-Chair,  Kotzebue Community Emergency  Task                                                                       
Force,   informed  the   committee  that   the   Kotzebue                                                                       
Community  Emergency   Task  Force  [(task  force)]   was                                                                       
formed  in the  fall of  2008,  at the  encouragement  of                                                                       
members of the  Northwest Arctic Leadership Team  (NWALT)                                                                       
who anticipated  the  difficulties of  the winter  ahead.                                                                       
The  task  force   searched  for  short-  and   long-term                                                                       
answers to  the problem  of higher energy  [costs].   Its                                                                       
short-term  focus  was on  immediate  solutions  to  help                                                                       
elders  in the  community  and  $50,000 was  raised  from                                                                       
private  industry  sources  to  weatherize  each  elder's                                                                       
home.   November  18th  was "Elder  Energy Day"  and  100                                                                       
volunteers  weatherized  nearly  100 homes  in  one  day.                                                                       
Mr.  Baker  emphasized that  although  the  problems  are                                                                       
many, efforts are  being made "[to] figure out how  do we                                                                       
help  ourselves."    The task  force  also  aired  Public                                                                       
Service Announcements  that encouraged  residents to  use                                                                       
their Permanent Fund Dividend for energy offsets.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:41:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BAKER stated  that the  task force  then  encouraged                                                                       
residents  to  utilize the  new  Alaska  Housing  Finance                                                                       
Corporation (AHFC)  Home Energy Rebate program;  however,                                                                       
it was difficult  finding raters and there are about  100                                                                       
homes  waiting for  an  energy  audit.   Another  problem                                                                       
with  this program  is that  homeowners  are required  to                                                                       
pay for  the approved  improvements and  then wait to  be                                                                       
reimbursed.   The long-term focus  for the task force  is                                                                       
to return to the  community and complete large jobs;  for                                                                       
example, replacing  the furnaces at the 10 homes  most in                                                                       
need.   Although AHFC has promised  a $100,000 grant  for                                                                       
this project,  the  arrangement has  not been  finalized.                                                                       
Lastly, Mr.  Baker suggested that  a tax credit,  similar                                                                       
to the  tax credit  available to  private companies  that                                                                       
donate funds  for education, would  also work to  support                                                                       
energy self-sufficiency in the Northwest Arctic region.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:44:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG  MCCONNELL, Member,  Kotzebue  Community  Emergency                                                                       
Task  Force;   Maintenance  Director,  Northwest   Arctic                                                                       
Borough  School   District,  reiterated  the   residents'                                                                       
intent  to  be  resourceful  and  self-sufficient.     He                                                                       
heralded the  success of Elder  Energy Day that  involved                                                                       
a  morning training  session,  over 100  volunteers,  and                                                                       
the installation  of five types  of insulation in  homes.                                                                       
However,  improvements at  this level will  not make  $14                                                                       
per  gallon   fuel   affordable.     Mr.  McConnell,   as                                                                       
maintenance  director  for the  NWABOR  School  District,                                                                       
relayed that  the new Noatak  school received a  December                                                                       
electric  bill for  $40,000,  and  is scheduled  to  have                                                                       
$50,000 heating  bills throughout  the year.   He  opined                                                                       
that  fuel in  Kotzebue is  more expensive  than in  Nome                                                                       
because  there is  no competition  for the  fuel  vendor.                                                                       
Mr.  McConnell concluded  that help  from  the state  was                                                                       
needed  to build  infrastructure  "so  that we  can  take                                                                       
care of ourselves."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:49:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  acknowledged the  shortage  of  qualified                                                                       
energy raters  was causing a problem  for the [AHFC  Home                                                                       
Energy Rebate]  program.  He  asked for suggestions  such                                                                       
as waivers, to avoid further delays.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:49:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCCONNELL  said one  of the problems  is that  raters                                                                       
are required  to attend  lengthy  training sessions  that                                                                       
are not  offered locally.   If they  were, local  workers                                                                       
could easily conduct the ratings.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:50:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEAN  WESTLAKE, Village  Economic  Development  Director,                                                                       
NANA  Regional Corporation,  responded  to Senator  Olson                                                                       
and  explained   that  the  regional  housing   authority                                                                       
builds  houses but  is  not authorized  by the  state  to                                                                       
conduct  energy ratings.   He recommended  utilizing  the                                                                       
local talent  so that  residents can get  access to  this                                                                       
fund.  "The money may as well be on the moon," he said.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS asked  whether Kotzebue  residents                                                                       
would be  willing to  spend three weeks  in Anchorage  or                                                                       
Fairbanks for training.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. WESTLAKE  agreed it  would be  of help  to a  certain                                                                       
portion of  the population; however,  the second  problem                                                                       
is that many people  can not "front" the $10,000  that is                                                                       
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  acknowledged that the $10,000  "up                                                                       
front"  was  a  universal  problem.    He   restated  his                                                                       
question about training.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WESTLAKE  said   that  many  people  who  would   be                                                                       
qualified to become  raters may not be able to leave  for                                                                       
three weeks  of training.   He deferred  the question  to                                                                       
the   executive   director  of   the   regional   housing                                                                       
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:54:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON   agreed  that  the  Home   Energy                                                                       
Rebate  program is  well intended  but,  he confirmed,  a                                                                       
better   mechanism  is   needed  "to   allow  the   state                                                                       
resources to  get down to  you ... so  you can apply  the                                                                       
weatherization techniques ...."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:55:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROGER  CLARK,   City  Administrator,  City  of   Selawik,                                                                       
stated that Selawik  is experiencing problems similar  to                                                                       
that  of Kotzebue  and  Noatak.   For  the  buildings  in                                                                       
Selawik, most  of the cost  is for  water and sewage  and                                                                       
to keep  the lines heated,  as they  must rest above  the                                                                       
ground due to  permafrost.  There was an early  freeze-up                                                                       
in October and  some subsequent cold snaps that  have run                                                                       
up  the bill  to  keep to  keep  these  lines open.    He                                                                       
encouraged  an  increase  in  revenue-sharing   funds  as                                                                       
small  cities are  bearing the  brunt of  the burden  for                                                                       
providing  basic services  that  larger cities  take  for                                                                       
granted.   Mr. Clark listed  the prices  for fuel in  his                                                                       
community and  pointed out that  some residents must  use                                                                       
money from the  state assistance for energy costs  to buy                                                                       
food.    He  stated  the  need  to  explore   alternative                                                                       
sources of energy,  such as wind power, and to  conserve.                                                                       
He emphasized that any state help would be appreciated.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:00:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLYDE  RAMOTH,  Delegate, Village  of  Selawik,  informed                                                                       
the committee  that the cost of  heating fuel in  Selawik                                                                       
is $6.60  without tax.  Fortunately,  many of the  people                                                                       
in  the  village qualify  for  state  support  to  offset                                                                       
energy  costs.   He  thanked the  legislators  for  their                                                                       
continued support  of the Power  Cost Equalization  (PCE)                                                                       
program  that  helps people  pay  their  electric  bills.                                                                       
Mr. Ramoth stated  that Selawik is also a community  that                                                                       
can work together  to solve problems as long as  there is                                                                       
some financial backing.   He expressed his support  for a                                                                       
bulk fuel  tank for the region  because that would  bring                                                                       
cheaper  fuel  to  the  communities.    In  addition,  he                                                                       
informed  the  committee  that  Selawik  and  five  other                                                                       
villages  are  unable to  receive  KOTZ  National  Public                                                                       
Radio  (NPR) broadcasts;  reception would  allow them  to                                                                       
benefit  from  Public Service  Announcements  (PSAs)  and                                                                       
educational programming.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE  asked  whether   there  was  local                                                                       
hiring for the installation of the new boardwalk.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAMOTH said  the  contractor who  was to  build  the                                                                       
board road  hired one  or two  local people.   There  was                                                                       
very little  money that stayed  in the village from  that                                                                       
project, although  it is only  50 percent completed.   He                                                                       
opined local hire was very minimal.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HANNAH  LOON cited  the village's  lack of  control  over                                                                       
the economic  recession or over  the climate change  that                                                                       
is causing  low water  in the  rivers.   She agreed  with                                                                       
the previous speaker than an increase in revenue-                                                                               
sharing for municipalities  would be helpful,  especially                                                                       
for schools  and  clinics.   High fuel  prices have  made                                                                       
life difficult.   Residents  are making  every effort  to                                                                       
keep  homes  and   the  water  and  sewer  systems   from                                                                       
freezing,  which  causes  a  health  hazard.    Ms.  Loon                                                                       
described  winter  life in  Selawik.   She  concluded  by                                                                       
stating her  support of  long-term solutions,  such as  a                                                                       
road to Anchorage  or Fairbanks, and invited everyone  to                                                                       
visit Selawik.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:13:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HENDY  BALLOT,   Tribal  Administrator,  Noorvik   Native                                                                       
Community, cautioned  that the  northern communities  are                                                                       
all  affected  by  the  energy  crisis   in  one  way  or                                                                       
another.   In fact; many of  the homes are "shifting"  on                                                                       
the ground, causing  the home to lose heat.  During  cold                                                                       
spells a  homeowner must pay about  $1,600 per month  for                                                                       
enough  heat  to keep  children  healthy.   Furthermore,                                                                        
with  the price  of gas  at  $7.60, traffic  between  the                                                                       
villages is at  a minimum.  He estimated that  collecting                                                                       
one week's worth  of firewood would cost $165 in  gas and                                                                       
oil for  the snowmobile.  Mr.  Ballot cited other  energy                                                                       
costs   in  the   area   that  affect   tribal   members,                                                                       
particularly  the elders,  and  those on  fixed  incomes.                                                                       
Noorvik  village  has  begun  a  wind  energy  study  and                                                                       
everyone  is interested  in  the results.   Fortunately,                                                                        
the  Northwest   Inupiat  Housing  Authority  (NIHA)   is                                                                       
planning   to   come   to   the   village    to   perform                                                                       
weatherization  work.   Mr.  Ballot  expressed  his  hope                                                                       
that the  window repairs  and leveling  of homes will  be                                                                       
done  by  local  workers  to  lower  the   high  rate  of                                                                       
unemployment,   and   pointed  out   that   the   housing                                                                       
authority is currently  building five new homes using  15                                                                       
local  workers.   Mr.  Ballot concluded  by  saying  that                                                                       
high  transportation costs  are  expected to  hinder  the                                                                       
ability for  subsistence hunting, both  in winter and  in                                                                       
summer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:19:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON offered the number for the low-                                                                           
income   assistance  program:   1-888-804-6330.      This                                                                       
program  is designed  to  provide  low-income  households                                                                       
with home  heating fuel  assistance.  He  noted that  the                                                                       
legislature  adjusted the guidelines  so more  households                                                                       
qualify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:21:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GUY   ADAMS,  Executive   Director,   Northwest   Inupiat                                                                       
Housing   Authority  (NIHA),   addressed  Representative                                                                        
Ramras'  question  regarding  [the  shortage  of]  energy                                                                       
raters.     He  observed   that  three   or  four   local                                                                       
individuals  are in  the  process of  becoming  certified                                                                       
energy raters.   The housing  authority has been  keeping                                                                       
in  touch  with AHFC  regarding  the  wait-list  and  the                                                                       
availability of raters.   He reiterated the shortcomings                                                                        
of the  Weatherization  and Home  Energy Rebate  programs                                                                       
and  estimated the  cost  to build  a 1,400  square  foot                                                                       
home in  a village is $400,000,  not including water  and                                                                       
sewer.   Two  factors  that help  NIHA  are  supplemental                                                                       
funds  for  water   and  sewer  infrastructure  and   the                                                                       
weatherization  fund.  He  explained that  the region  is                                                                       
entitled  to  $5.3  million  over  five  years  from  the                                                                       
weatherization fund.   Although insufficient, this  money                                                                       
will provide  long-term benefits.   During FY 2008,  NIHA                                                                       
spent  $1.1  million on  weatherization  and  intends  to                                                                       
continue  work in  the villages  of Noorvik  and  Noatak.                                                                       
The  state  weatherization  funds have  been  matched  by                                                                       
Native American  Housing Assistance & Self Determination                                                                        
Act  of  1996   (NAHASDA)  funds  and  Indian   Community                                                                       
Development  Block Grant (ICDBG)  funds to  help in  this                                                                       
effort.   Mr. Adams  re-stated the  current difficulties                                                                        
residents  are  having,  and  added  that  draining  fuel                                                                       
storage  tanks   dry  causes   an  array  of   additional                                                                       
problems.   He then  turned to  the subject  of the  Home                                                                       
Energy  Rebate  program  and  echoed  the   testimony  of                                                                       
previous speakers:   The  program does  not work well  in                                                                       
rural  Alaska   due  to  the   upfront  costs  that   are                                                                       
required.   He then raised the  problem of villages  that                                                                       
run  out of  fuel between  deliveries and  stressed  that                                                                       
solutions must  be found.  He  expressed his support  for                                                                       
proposed  legislation  to  cap  fuel  prices  at  $3  per                                                                       
gallon; the type  of legislation that is good for  all of                                                                       
Alaska.   Mr. Adams suggested  that the committee  search                                                                       
for a baseline cost  for energy so that people can  focus                                                                       
on other quality-of-life issues such as education.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:29:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK   GREENE,   Vice   President,   NANA    Development                                                                       
Corporation, reported  that copies of NANA's energy  plan                                                                       
are  available to  the  committee.   He warned  that  the                                                                       
residents  in the NANA  region "are  living basically  in                                                                       
survival mode,"  as a result of  the cost of energy,  and                                                                       
many  other amenities  such as  water and  sewer  systems                                                                       
are  being affected.    He encouraged  the  committee  to                                                                       
consider  alternative sources  of energy  and noted  that                                                                       
NANA   has  submitted   a  grant   application  to   take                                                                       
advantage  of  wind energy  options  and  is  considering                                                                       
geothermal prospects.   In addition,  NANA would like  to                                                                       
explore  for  natural  gas.   Mr.  Greene  discussed  the                                                                       
large amount  of money approved  for [the Alaska  Gasline                                                                       
Inducement Act  (AGIA)] and asked,  "Why couldn't we  use                                                                       
some of  those funds to help  us alleviate the  situation                                                                       
that we have?"   He also spoke  of a proposal to build  a                                                                       
natural  gas  pipeline  from  the  North   Slope  through                                                                       
Northwest  Alaska to  Southwest Alaska,  thereby  weaning                                                                       
consumers away from diesel to natural gas.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:33:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS recalled  his earlier  opinion  of                                                                       
the AGIA pipeline contract.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:33:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  OKLEASIK,   Planning   Director,  Northwest   Arctic                                                                       
Borough  (NWABOR),  informed the  committee  that  energy                                                                       
has become  a high priority for  each of the  communities                                                                       
in the  region.   He directed  the committee's  attention                                                                       
to his  letter contained  in the committee  packet.   Mr.                                                                       
Okleasik  referred  to  the energy  summit  held  by  the                                                                       
Northwest   Arctic    Borough's   Economic    Development                                                                       
Department and NANA,  and noted the recommendations  made                                                                       
at the  summit regarding the  unique arctic environment.                                                                        
Also, he  said that a comprehensive  energy plan for  the                                                                       
region  is in  the packet.    Highlights of  the  borough                                                                       
energy  plan   prepared  in  March   of  1993   included:                                                                       
continuing  efforts  to  ensure  full  funding  for  PCE;                                                                       
working  to   establish  basic   levels  of  service   of                                                                       
utilities  for all  of the  villages in  the borough  and                                                                       
Kotzebue;  and  working to  upgrade  substandard  utility                                                                       
systems.   At  a meeting  of the Denali  energy  advisory                                                                       
committee in  Kotzebue there was  agreement that  "panels                                                                       
of  [the] utility  systems  need  to be  upgraded."    He                                                                       
opined  these   panels  are  part   of  the   substandard                                                                       
systems;  in  fact,  an increase  in  efficiency  of  the                                                                       
panels  can be  as high  as 10  percent.   Another  major                                                                       
reason to upgrade  utilities is that some villages  could                                                                       
not  add alternative  sources, such  as wind,  without  a                                                                       
change to the panels.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:37:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS asked  for a  further  explanation                                                                       
of the panels.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:37:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. OKLEASIK  explained that the  control panels are  set                                                                       
up for delivering  power and metering the consumption  of                                                                       
power  per  home.   The  panels  are  designed  only  for                                                                       
diesel; in fact,  in Selawik, plugging in an  alternative                                                                       
energy source would  shut down the generator.  This  is a                                                                       
basic  infrastructure issue  that creates  a barrier  for                                                                       
bringing    alternative    energy   on-line    for    the                                                                       
communities.   Other  parts of  the borough  energy  plan                                                                       
included  coordination with  all community  and  regional                                                                       
utilities  to   ensure  adequate  funding  and   training                                                                       
systems  for  operations  and  maintenance;  and  working                                                                       
with village utilities  to strive to find innovative  and                                                                       
cost-effective  alternatives  and  technologies  to  fund                                                                       
and administer  public utilities.   A  very basic  energy                                                                       
component  in this  plan  is how  to utilize  waste  heat                                                                       
from diesel  powered generators.   Mr. Okleasik  observed                                                                       
that  the City  of Selawik  was anticipating  a  $250,000                                                                       
utility  bill for  simply  heating  the water  and  sewer                                                                       
system with  heat tape;  this amount  compares with  that                                                                       
of Anchorage, and  he suggested using waste heat  to keep                                                                       
the  city  utilities  ice free.    He  stressed  that  an                                                                       
investment  made  by  the  state  to  upgrade  the  basic                                                                       
systems already in  place can realize solutions that  can                                                                       
be  saving energy  in one  or two  years.   Mr.  Okleasik                                                                       
encouraged  legislators   to  ensure  that  funding   for                                                                       
programs actually  reaches villages.  His frustration  is                                                                       
with programs  that are tied up  in red tape and can  not                                                                       
reach those in need.   He pointed out that the  bulk fuel                                                                       
storage  grant process  funded by  the Denali  Commission                                                                       
is accessible  to the  communities in need.   The  Denali                                                                       
Commission uses  a formula to  adjust for variables  such                                                                       
as poverty  rates and  the costs of  goods and  services.                                                                       
Also, he  pointed out  the serious equity  issue in  that                                                                       
oil and  gas from  mostly Inupiat land  funds 85  percent                                                                       
of the  state's revenue;  however,  Inupiat villages  are                                                                       
not receiving the equitable benefit.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:43:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OKLEASIK,  in  response  to  a  question   from  the                                                                       
committee,  repeated the  factors taken  into account  by                                                                       
the   Denali    Commission:   the   poverty   rates    of                                                                       
communities;  the cost  of utilities  and  fuel; and  the                                                                       
cost of construction.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:44:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  JOULE,  Executive  Director,  Native   Village  of                                                                       
Kotzebue, informed  the committee that  this year is  the                                                                       
70th  anniversary  of  the  village's  recognition  as  a                                                                       
federal  Tribe.   She said  the Tribe  consists of  2,800                                                                       
members,  many  of  whom  are  low-income,   elderly,  or                                                                       
families in  need.   Her organization is  a resource  for                                                                       
and an avenue  to assistance for the community;  in fact,                                                                       
tribal  members  are  often the  first  to  know  when  a                                                                       
villager  is  in  need.    The  Kotzebue  Tribe  compacts                                                                       
directly  with   the  federal   government  for   program                                                                       
funding; therefore  the village is not supported  by AHFC                                                                       
or  any of  the state  regional housing  authorities  and                                                                       
"falls through the  cracks."  Although efforts were  made                                                                       
through  AHFC,  the appropriation  from  the  legislature                                                                       
for  weatherization  and home  energy  rebates  has  been                                                                       
withheld  from  the  village.    Ms.  Joule  opined  this                                                                       
situation may  be the same for  other communities in  the                                                                       
region.   The Tribe  hopes to receive  [funding] for  the                                                                       
weatherization  of at least  10 homes,  although 20  more                                                                       
are  in  need.    She  assured  the  committee  that  the                                                                       
Tribe's  housing  authority  personnel   are  capable  of                                                                       
performing   the  energy  ratings   and  completing   the                                                                       
improvements.   Ms.  Joule requested  that the  committee                                                                       
find a  way for  her community  to receive  its share  of                                                                       
the funds that are available.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EUGENE   SMITH,   Chief   Investment   Office,   Maniilaq                                                                       
Association;  Mayor,  City  of  Kotzebue,   directed  the                                                                       
committee's attention  to a proposal  first submitted  to                                                                       
the legislature  and [federal  agencies] five years  ago.                                                                       
This proposal  is sponsored by NWALT  and its goal is  to                                                                       
create  a  way  for  the  region  to  become  sustainable                                                                       
without  subsidies.   Mr.  Smith stated  that  generating                                                                       
energy for  heating and electricity  by diesel fuel is  a                                                                       
"nightmare"  for the  villages,  and explained  that  the                                                                       
proposal  is  an   ambitious  effort  to  create   a  new                                                                       
infrastructure  that uses  a centralized  energy  source.                                                                       
The cost  comparisons in the  proposal have been  updated                                                                       
since it  was first developed  in 2002; however,  updated                                                                       
numbers  provided through  the Regulatory  Commission  of                                                                       
Alaska  (RCA) and  AEA are  still one  year  behind.   He                                                                       
opined  opportunities  exist  to  create   a  sustainable                                                                       
source of  energy for the  villages, but  it will take  a                                                                       
commitment  of funding  support  from state  and  federal                                                                       
governments   to  implement  these   alternatives.     He                                                                       
stressed  that  the   proposal  is  a  "very   ambitious,                                                                       
proactive plan  that can help  sustain our region."   For                                                                       
example,  combining a  road from  Noatak to  the Red  Dog                                                                       
Mine  haul road  would give  access to  the  fuel at  the                                                                       
mine  20 miles  away,  thus providing  sustainability  to                                                                       
the  village.    This  type  of  initiative   would  help                                                                       
communities  thrive, he  said.   Mr. Smith  then  pointed                                                                       
out that the  cost of living in  the area is inflated  to                                                                       
the  point that  a  person considered  middle  income  is                                                                       
actually at  poverty level.  In  fact, a person  employed                                                                       
full  time is  unable to  pay for  his or  her fuel,  yet                                                                       
makes too  much money to  qualify for assistance  through                                                                       
state  programs; this  process is  not equitable  between                                                                       
urban and  rural residents.   He urged  the committee  to                                                                       
review   the  proposal   and   focus  on   intertie   and                                                                       
alternative energy solutions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:57:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARLENE   MOTO  emphasized   that   an  audit   of   fuel                                                                       
consumption  in  the village  is  needed.   Furthermore,                                                                        
U.S.  Coast Guard  regulations need  to be  fixed at  the                                                                       
tank farm.   She said  she would like  to see a  regional                                                                       
report made  to the board, as  she suspects price  fixing                                                                       
is occurring.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:59:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JADE  HILL,  Assistant to  the  Mayor,  Northwest  Arctic                                                                       
Borough,   concurred   with   previous    testimony   and                                                                       
underscored  the efforts  toward,  and intent  for,  self                                                                       
sufficiency.   She reiterated  Mayor Whiting's  testimony                                                                       
regarding  the community spirit  that exists.   Ms.  Hill                                                                       
stressed  that  solutions, ideas,  and  suggestions  have                                                                       
been  provided  to this  and  other  committees  and  she                                                                       
highlighted the need  for the legislators to act  on what                                                                       
has been  suggested.  She reminded  the committee of  the                                                                       
energy   resolution   in   Kotzebue   that    recommended                                                                       
increased  support for PCE,  and the  energy summit  that                                                                       
resulted  in  immediate  action  by  the  community  task                                                                       
force.    However,  the  residents  have   reached  their                                                                       
capacity.  Access  to fuel and urban areas requires  help                                                                       
on  the state  level  for  increased  transportation  and                                                                       
road infrastructure,  such  as the road  to Cape  Blossom                                                                       
and its  deep water port.   Finally,  Ms. Hill noted  the                                                                       
need to  provide money  for the  Alaska Technical  Center                                                                       
and Chukchi College  so a work force is trained  to build                                                                       
and sustain  the new  energy infrastructure,  whether  it                                                                       
is wind, solar, or geothermal energy.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:07:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEAN  WESTLAKE, Village  Economic  Development  Director,                                                                       
NANA Regional  Corporation, informed  the committee  that                                                                       
Kotzebue  is not  included  in  the state's  average  gas                                                                       
prices; moreover,  this has  been an  ongoing issue  with                                                                       
state  cost-of-living  indices.    He  referred   to  the                                                                       
intertie proposal  between Noorvik,  Kiana, and  Selawik,                                                                       
and  described   other  possible   "efficiencies."     In                                                                       
addition,  he said,  the NANA  strategic  energy plan  is                                                                       
just starting up  and is inclusive of the other  agencies                                                                       
in the region.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:09:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN   YANITY,    Project    Engineer,   NANA    Pacific                                                                       
Corporation,  reported on  the  five proposals  for  wind                                                                       
farms in  the NWABOR  and urged the  legislators to  fund                                                                       
the Renewable Energy Grant Recommendation Program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:10:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON,  in  response  to  Mr.  Westlake,                                                                       
noted that  the Alaska Gas Line  Pricing Report gives  an                                                                       
explanation of  gas pricing in  Alaska; furthermore,  the                                                                       
committee  will  be  hearing  from  fuel   suppliers  and                                                                       
distributors at a later date.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WESTLAKE  added that  Fairbanks is  a logical  choice                                                                       
as it is 300 miles closer.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:11:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
D'ANNE   HAMILTON,    Economic   Development    Director,                                                                       
Northwest   Arctic   Borough,         referred   to   the                                                                       
technological  innovations  that  are  occurring  at  the                                                                       
Northwest  Arctic  Borough.   She  pointed out  that  for                                                                       
every  dollar spent  on  technology there  is a  cost  in                                                                       
energy consumption;  for example, her work required  that                                                                       
she download  a multi-media  piece and  it took 16  hours                                                                       
on the equipment  she has available.  She encouraged  the                                                                       
committee to  keep in mind the  cost of productivity  and                                                                       
the   slowdown   of   business   when   considering   the                                                                       
infrastructure    that     is    needed    for     viable                                                                       
sustainability.  She  also urged that the committee  take                                                                       
the  opportunity to  unite and  integrate  the state  and                                                                       
communities  so they  may work  together.   Ms.  Hamilton                                                                       
observed  that funds  from the federal  stimulus  package                                                                       
will be available for true innovation and new ideas.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALEB  PUNGOWIYI stressed  that  the immediate  need  for                                                                       
energy is  an issue that  can not wait  until the end  of                                                                       
the   legislative  session.     He   opined   eliminating                                                                       
bureaucracy  is the  best way  to provide  assistance  to                                                                       
residents.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:15:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN SCHAEFFER,  Kotzebue  Airport Manager,  Department                                                                       
of Transportation  & Public  Facilities (DOT&PF),  shared                                                                       
some examples of  the effects high energy costs  have had                                                                       
on residents.   Some airports have  not been able to  buy                                                                       
enough fuel  to keep the runways  open, although it is  a                                                                       
priority.   From  his past  experience,  he related  that                                                                       
most  of the  vehicles used  for hunting  have  two-cycle                                                                       
engines  and a  gallon of  the proper  oil costs  $80.00.                                                                       
Finally,  Mr. Schaeffer  said that  the fuel  crisis  has                                                                       
led to the theft of wood from an elderly resident.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNMARIE  O'BRIEN,  Assistant  Superintendent,  Northwest                                                                       
Arctic   Borough   School  District,   in   response   to                                                                       
Representative  Joule, said  that  the overall  cost  for                                                                       
maintaining  schools has increased  significantly,  which                                                                       
impacts  not only  running the  school system,  but  also                                                                       
who they are  able to hire and  retain as teachers.   She                                                                       
opined  basic services  such as  rent and  utilities  are                                                                       
beyond the means of a teacher's wages.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:20:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MILLETT thanked  all  of the  participants  and                                                                       
pledged  to take  their  comments into  consideration  in                                                                       
the framework and policy of the energy plan.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:21:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    JOULE   said    that   "good,    actual                                                                       
information"  can bridge  some  of the  distance  between                                                                       
urban  and   rural  Alaska.     He   praised  those   who                                                                       
testified,  and the  committee for  coming  to hear  from                                                                       
rural residents  in their communities.   Secondly, it  is                                                                       
important to make  sure that young people take  advantage                                                                       
of  the educational  systems available.   Representative                                                                        
Joule spoke  about the many  specialized jobs that  could                                                                       
be filled  by local residents  with the proper  training.                                                                       
He remarked:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ... and  holding [our young people] accountable                                                                            
    to  get the  training  that's necessary,  to get                                                                            
    the  education,  at  our  universities  and  [at                                                                            
    technical]  schools,  and expecting  them  to do                                                                            
    well, like  we all know they can, we can build a                                                                            
    healthier  future  for ourselves.   And  I think                                                                            
    that  is  the  biggest  opportunity  in some  of                                                                            
    these hard times.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT encouraged witnesses to take home the                                                                          
information available from AEA.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:23:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee,                                                                           
the House Special Committee on Energy meeting was                                                                               
adjourned at 3:23 p.m.                                                                                                          

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